The No Kings are the clear majority in the country. The DJT “win” in the national popular vote was 1.5%. MANY of those people have smelled the coffee. Look at Boise! The NK demonstration there drew MORE than poor Donnie’s entire parade (Newsmax estimated 10,000 for that parade, and they are a Trump-friendly outlet!!) Boise is in Idaho. Idaho went Trump 67%/30%. But they’re recognizing that this isn’t what they voted for.
Polls. Net Disapproval (i.e. %Disapproval - % Approval). Ipsos/Reuters: minus 12 points; Quinnipiac: minus 16 points. Pew Research: minus 17 points. CBS: minus 10 points. NBC: minus 10 points.
Also former Democrat and also right on, except...after the kangaroo court conviction in Manhattan I was seriously considering voting for Trump just to stop the Democrats, because they could not be allowed to win using such fascist tactics, but what clinched it was the assassination attempt followed by the reaching out to RFK. Which interestingly would not have worked had the Democrats pretended to embrace RFK, I would not have believed them, but Trump was enough of a wild card I was willing to bet.
I hope that makes sense, I'm a bit tpisy right now.
Confession: I was Democrat. I left the party to vote for Trump. He listened to the people who have very little voice. He gets it. Jobs, excessive number of illegals draining social services/disrupting the wage structures with cash only work, no killing wars, manufacturing made in USA, respect for law enforcement/military, support for Israel’s right to be, disdain for a disrespectful/falsifying/partisan media, advances on merit not race, the Presidency as an open book (no secrets), love of country, keen mission of strength/prosperity and more. He gave up a comfortable life to be beat up, shot at and falsely accused. Is this a man with an ego? No. Not at all. The democrat party is consumed with hate and privilege. There would never be a Donald Trump as a nominee from the democrat party. They are not the same. Trump is extraordinary.
1000% this! An old (now distant) friend posted a picture of herself at a “No Kings” rally. Typical older white liberal woman (60s), single, no kids, a few cats. Her sign said “We Are All Immigrants” … 🙄🙄 yes, LEGAL ONES!! All I can do is shake my head.
No, we won 11 million point one participants in the protest against that fat.Orange retarded fuck, we won and we're going to continue to win ,and I promise you this.My stupid trump supporting retarded friend, trump is not going to make it his full term!
You really don't get the irony of your comment, do you? We'll post something soon recapping Biden family corruption. Biden is on video threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they stopped investigating the company Hunter was a board member of (Burisma).
There is a lot of fear on both sides and we should all be careful about how far we let fear of things control our words and actions. Both the far left and right are leaning into fear to gather support especially online where it easy to spread narratives regardless of the validity of them.
Brilliant, thanks for the catharsis :). No they will never learn, they are either to married to their ideology or to the single issue that is more important to them than a fiscally solvent USA for their progeny.
I read your post and genuinely tried to understand your perspective—hopefully, you’ll do the same.
I have friends on both sides of the political spectrum, all of whom I respect. Historically, policy debates were manageable, even productive. But with Trump, things changed. It’s no longer just about policy—it’s about democracy and freedom. As a centrist, I find the fear of creeping autocracy, not partisanship, driving the intensity of today's discourse.
It’s difficult to grasp how Trump supporters expect critics to simply “relax” when cruelty and division have become normalized. I miss when life wasn’t dominated by politics, but the daily chaos and authoritarian leanings force engagement—for the sake of future generations.
You mentioned suburban women caring about migrant families as if it’s odd—that’s the point. One side looks out for all human rights; the other often seems focused solely on its own. Accusations of “whataboutism” are projection—many Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing, even crimes. That’s where the “cult” narrative stems from. I can’t imagine idolizing any leader to the point of getting a tattoo or branding a vehicle. It’s bizarre.
As for “No Kings”—it absolutely is about democracy. If a Democrat tried to seize authoritarian power, I’d resist just as strongly. That’s what the First Amendment is for.
We’re not against deporting criminals—we support it. But we oppose raids on hardworking, non-criminal immigrants. We’ve studied history and know where ignoring due process leads. We’re not trying to bring people in—we’re trying to keep tyranny out.
So please, take a moment to separate your loyalty to one man from the bigger picture. We’re not against you—we’re against him.
We'll be posting a response soon to cover some of your points but in brief:
1) None of you cared about the authoritarianism under Biden; you cheered it on. E.g. the Biden administration literally installed a "disinformation czar" until we called them out on it.
2) You are the ones who are cruel and divisive, read the comments below.
3) Suburban women do not genuinely care about migrant families, it's all about virtue signaling. A NO ICE sign is the modern equivalent of a Prada handbag.
4) Once again, you totally did nothing to stand up against the authoritarianism from the left, like putting J6 protesters in jail for years without a trial with terrible conditions. Or the corruption of the Biden family, well documented and ignored by you.
5) You absolutely are against deporting criminals, don't lie.
6) You are definitely not a centrist.
7) You appear to have a reading comprehension problem. The article specifically says we were not voting for Trump but voting against YOU. (You meaning modern Democrats and leftists like yourself.)
Thanks for at least writing a civil comment, since most of your brethren were incapable of that (also see below).
Aeon - J6 rioters in jail without a trial? Where are you getting this? I mean, many of them did plea bargains of Guilty rather than go to trial. So in that sense, they did ‘not have trials,’ but they got better sentences than if they went to trial. Your source(s) are misleading you.
You're welcome—and I agree, civil debate is more important than ever. Division helps no one. That said, it's clear your perspective is shaped by certain assumptions—for example, viewing protesters as Prada-bag-carrying suburban housewives. In reality, many are working- and middle-class people. I deliberately avoided using offensive stereotypes about Trump supporters—perhaps we can both steer clear of those kinds of generalizations going forward.
You're right: I don’t see Biden as authoritarian. If you’d like, I’m open to a point-by-point discussion comparing actions. Here are just a few concerns I have about Trump: undermining the judicial system, attacking lawyers and universities, discrediting the media, deploying the military against civilians, enabling unelected billionaires to harvest our data, threatening our allies, and cozying up to dictators. I could go on. And yes, you’re also right—I do not support insurrectionists.
One thing I’d like to flag: you’ve made assumptions about who I am, which feels presumptive. You’re correct that Trump pushed me from a center position (registered Republican) to the left. But being left of center isn’t the same as being fringe—extremes on either side often lack reason.
Since we're speaking frankly, I’ll share a hard truth of my own: I suspect you supported Trump because—whether consciously or not—you’re influenced by racial bias. That’s the only way I can understand someone putting faith in a man who openly undermines democratic norms and is propped up by Christian nationalism.
I don’t say that to insult, but to challenge. We all have blind spots. I just ask you to reflect as I’ve done.
Funny how our article highlights the supreme court judge for sale Clarence Thomas and General Lloyd Austin III - the 4 star general replaced for the DUI hire Hegseth.
The military isn't the place for your social engineering. We have a lot of crap 4 star generals.
I have a good friend who was a Colonel in the Air Force. I once asked him why enlistees are such big patriotic flag-wavers there. So, I’m confused about how pukes like General Wesley Clark turn into America-hating Democrats. I also asked him why he didn't go for general.
Bill replied, "Daryl, at the rank of Colonel it is no longer about patriotism; it is about advancing to general. To advance to general, you must attach your wagon to an influential general and do some boot licking. General Wesley Clark, when below general, evidently attached himself to a Democrat general.” Daryl, I was both to patriotic to be a bootlicker for advancement.
There are a lot of people in the Pentagon who attached their wagons to politically correct pukes for advancement and I want every one of them gone. That is one of the reasons we elected trump, to have an effective fighting force. DEI ruins organizations because it isn’t based on merit, Harvard being a great example.
Clarence Thomas is one of the most honorable individuals walking. I love the way he put Biden in his place at high tech lynching. And you weep because the high-tech lynching wasn’t successful.
So Democrats are “America-hating” and can’t be patriotic. Broad brush, much? I would never label all righties as America-hating or unpatriotic. I think we disagree on what patriotic means.
Ms. Burgundy, Your write-up is 💯 case on point. What an exceptionally articulate & truthful analogy. It was such a pleasure reading your post & I applaud you!!!
Thanks for all the comments, folks. We'll be posting a follow-up soon. You might also want to read: https://aeonchronicle.substack.com/p/dear-woke-musicians-you-are-the-haters
Well said 👏 👏👏
The No Kings are the clear majority in the country. The DJT “win” in the national popular vote was 1.5%. MANY of those people have smelled the coffee. Look at Boise! The NK demonstration there drew MORE than poor Donnie’s entire parade (Newsmax estimated 10,000 for that parade, and they are a Trump-friendly outlet!!) Boise is in Idaho. Idaho went Trump 67%/30%. But they’re recognizing that this isn’t what they voted for.
Hardly. Data shows Trump has majority approval ratings, with blacks even rating him higher than whites. Keep deluding yourself. https://aeonchronicle.substack.com/p/black-trump-approval-tops-that-of-whites
Polls. Net Disapproval (i.e. %Disapproval - % Approval). Ipsos/Reuters: minus 12 points; Quinnipiac: minus 16 points. Pew Research: minus 17 points. CBS: minus 10 points. NBC: minus 10 points.
Call me deluded ....
Rasmussen is always an outlier in these things. Always skews to the Right. Credibility in question for a long time.
Rasmussen was pretty much the only polling that predicted Trump's win. Ignore at your own peril.
Good point. Thanks for the vitriol-free post. There are many on that side of the divide who could take a lesson from you.
Also former Democrat and also right on, except...after the kangaroo court conviction in Manhattan I was seriously considering voting for Trump just to stop the Democrats, because they could not be allowed to win using such fascist tactics, but what clinched it was the assassination attempt followed by the reaching out to RFK. Which interestingly would not have worked had the Democrats pretended to embrace RFK, I would not have believed them, but Trump was enough of a wild card I was willing to bet.
I hope that makes sense, I'm a bit tpisy right now.
Awesome statement; thank you!
Confession: I was Democrat. I left the party to vote for Trump. He listened to the people who have very little voice. He gets it. Jobs, excessive number of illegals draining social services/disrupting the wage structures with cash only work, no killing wars, manufacturing made in USA, respect for law enforcement/military, support for Israel’s right to be, disdain for a disrespectful/falsifying/partisan media, advances on merit not race, the Presidency as an open book (no secrets), love of country, keen mission of strength/prosperity and more. He gave up a comfortable life to be beat up, shot at and falsely accused. Is this a man with an ego? No. Not at all. The democrat party is consumed with hate and privilege. There would never be a Donald Trump as a nominee from the democrat party. They are not the same. Trump is extraordinary.
1000% this! An old (now distant) friend posted a picture of herself at a “No Kings” rally. Typical older white liberal woman (60s), single, no kids, a few cats. Her sign said “We Are All Immigrants” … 🙄🙄 yes, LEGAL ONES!! All I can do is shake my head.
Less than 25000 spectators for dictator parade ,8 million protesters.I think we won! you stupid fuck!
Thanks for proving the point of the article with your abusive language. And no, you didn't win, see: https://aeonchronicle.substack.com/p/black-trump-approval-tops-that-of-whites
No, we won 11 million point one participants in the protest against that fat.Orange retarded fuck, we won and we're going to continue to win ,and I promise you this.My stupid trump supporting retarded friend, trump is not going to make it his full term!
What do you mean Trump's not going to make it to his full term? Did you just post an assassination threat? Because we would need to report this.
He's showing mental decline and he's very unhealthy and he's going to be impeached
Amen!
I stopped being silent. I like to annoy them.
What part of lying, cheating, stealing, and ignoring the Constitution is OK with these people..? 🇺🇸😎
You mean the Biden administration, clearly.
Please cite where Biden suggests we ignore the Constitution for his personal gain.
We’ll wait… 😎
You really don't get the irony of your comment, do you? We'll post something soon recapping Biden family corruption. Biden is on video threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they stopped investigating the company Hunter was a board member of (Burisma).
Nice try.
I didn’t mention corruption, and certainly not the many times debunked Burisma crap.
I said the Constitution, which I care about much more than Hunter Biden.
Any real American would…
Appeals court just ruled in favor of Trump re: National Guard, Trump is acting constitutionally. Also read: https://aeonchronicle.substack.com/p/next-no-kings-ice-obstruction-planned
Yes, he’s acting constitutionally in this instance, but he’s said outright he wants to discard it, and refused to say he’d support it when under oath.
He’s also trying to stop the judicial branch from having any control over him, a direct violation of our Checks and Balances.
Go ahead and defend him; when he’s done you’ll be just as fucked over as the rest of us because he has no loyalty to anyone, even his supporters.
And citing your own biased article to support your arguement is simply pathetic…
There is a lot of fear on both sides and we should all be careful about how far we let fear of things control our words and actions. Both the far left and right are leaning into fear to gather support especially online where it easy to spread narratives regardless of the validity of them.
I'm also that person on the yoga mat who voted for Trump. I will always vote against self-righteous, delusional hypocrites.
Brilliant, thanks for the catharsis :). No they will never learn, they are either to married to their ideology or to the single issue that is more important to them than a fiscally solvent USA for their progeny.
I read your post and genuinely tried to understand your perspective—hopefully, you’ll do the same.
I have friends on both sides of the political spectrum, all of whom I respect. Historically, policy debates were manageable, even productive. But with Trump, things changed. It’s no longer just about policy—it’s about democracy and freedom. As a centrist, I find the fear of creeping autocracy, not partisanship, driving the intensity of today's discourse.
It’s difficult to grasp how Trump supporters expect critics to simply “relax” when cruelty and division have become normalized. I miss when life wasn’t dominated by politics, but the daily chaos and authoritarian leanings force engagement—for the sake of future generations.
You mentioned suburban women caring about migrant families as if it’s odd—that’s the point. One side looks out for all human rights; the other often seems focused solely on its own. Accusations of “whataboutism” are projection—many Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing, even crimes. That’s where the “cult” narrative stems from. I can’t imagine idolizing any leader to the point of getting a tattoo or branding a vehicle. It’s bizarre.
As for “No Kings”—it absolutely is about democracy. If a Democrat tried to seize authoritarian power, I’d resist just as strongly. That’s what the First Amendment is for.
We’re not against deporting criminals—we support it. But we oppose raids on hardworking, non-criminal immigrants. We’ve studied history and know where ignoring due process leads. We’re not trying to bring people in—we’re trying to keep tyranny out.
So please, take a moment to separate your loyalty to one man from the bigger picture. We’re not against you—we’re against him.
Every time people don’t agree with you they are paid. Just because black people were tricked into voting for him doesn’t mean you are not racist.
We'll be posting a response soon to cover some of your points but in brief:
1) None of you cared about the authoritarianism under Biden; you cheered it on. E.g. the Biden administration literally installed a "disinformation czar" until we called them out on it.
2) You are the ones who are cruel and divisive, read the comments below.
3) Suburban women do not genuinely care about migrant families, it's all about virtue signaling. A NO ICE sign is the modern equivalent of a Prada handbag.
4) Once again, you totally did nothing to stand up against the authoritarianism from the left, like putting J6 protesters in jail for years without a trial with terrible conditions. Or the corruption of the Biden family, well documented and ignored by you.
5) You absolutely are against deporting criminals, don't lie.
6) You are definitely not a centrist.
7) You appear to have a reading comprehension problem. The article specifically says we were not voting for Trump but voting against YOU. (You meaning modern Democrats and leftists like yourself.)
Thanks for at least writing a civil comment, since most of your brethren were incapable of that (also see below).
Aeon - J6 rioters in jail without a trial? Where are you getting this? I mean, many of them did plea bargains of Guilty rather than go to trial. So in that sense, they did ‘not have trials,’ but they got better sentences than if they went to trial. Your source(s) are misleading you.
Also, if JB was guilty of so much, then why did multiple masturbatory congressional hearings turn up a big fat zero??
You're welcome—and I agree, civil debate is more important than ever. Division helps no one. That said, it's clear your perspective is shaped by certain assumptions—for example, viewing protesters as Prada-bag-carrying suburban housewives. In reality, many are working- and middle-class people. I deliberately avoided using offensive stereotypes about Trump supporters—perhaps we can both steer clear of those kinds of generalizations going forward.
You're right: I don’t see Biden as authoritarian. If you’d like, I’m open to a point-by-point discussion comparing actions. Here are just a few concerns I have about Trump: undermining the judicial system, attacking lawyers and universities, discrediting the media, deploying the military against civilians, enabling unelected billionaires to harvest our data, threatening our allies, and cozying up to dictators. I could go on. And yes, you’re also right—I do not support insurrectionists.
One thing I’d like to flag: you’ve made assumptions about who I am, which feels presumptive. You’re correct that Trump pushed me from a center position (registered Republican) to the left. But being left of center isn’t the same as being fringe—extremes on either side often lack reason.
Since we're speaking frankly, I’ll share a hard truth of my own: I suspect you supported Trump because—whether consciously or not—you’re influenced by racial bias. That’s the only way I can understand someone putting faith in a man who openly undermines democratic norms and is propped up by Christian nationalism.
I don’t say that to insult, but to challenge. We all have blind spots. I just ask you to reflect as I’ve done.
You write like a paid operative, because real "centrists" rarely bother this much. As far as your charges of racism, please see: https://aeonchronicle.substack.com/p/black-trump-approval-tops-that-of-whites
Cut the racial bias crap out, that troupe is dead and buried. Being against border anarchy isn't racist, it is common sense.
https://darylhunterpolyhistor.substack.com/p/racist-really
Funny how our article highlights the supreme court judge for sale Clarence Thomas and General Lloyd Austin III - the 4 star general replaced for the DUI hire Hegseth.
The military isn't the place for your social engineering. We have a lot of crap 4 star generals.
I have a good friend who was a Colonel in the Air Force. I once asked him why enlistees are such big patriotic flag-wavers there. So, I’m confused about how pukes like General Wesley Clark turn into America-hating Democrats. I also asked him why he didn't go for general.
Bill replied, "Daryl, at the rank of Colonel it is no longer about patriotism; it is about advancing to general. To advance to general, you must attach your wagon to an influential general and do some boot licking. General Wesley Clark, when below general, evidently attached himself to a Democrat general.” Daryl, I was both to patriotic to be a bootlicker for advancement.
There are a lot of people in the Pentagon who attached their wagons to politically correct pukes for advancement and I want every one of them gone. That is one of the reasons we elected trump, to have an effective fighting force. DEI ruins organizations because it isn’t based on merit, Harvard being a great example.
Clarence Thomas is one of the most honorable individuals walking. I love the way he put Biden in his place at high tech lynching. And you weep because the high-tech lynching wasn’t successful.
So Democrats are “America-hating” and can’t be patriotic. Broad brush, much? I would never label all righties as America-hating or unpatriotic. I think we disagree on what patriotic means.
Ms. Burgundy, Your write-up is 💯 case on point. What an exceptionally articulate & truthful analogy. It was such a pleasure reading your post & I applaud you!!!